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While the new limitation is rough, there could be deeper implications.
If you haven’t read about the new Chase Sapphire limitation it basically goes like this: you can only carry one Chase Sapphire at a time, and can’t get a Sapphire sign up bonus if you’ve gotten one in the past 24 months. In other words…Have a Reserve, you can’t get a Preferred and vice versa and if you received a bonus on either of them in the past 24 months, you can’t get another bonus until that 24 month timeframe has elapsed. The only exceptions are for those cardholders that currently hold more than one Sapphire as they can keep both cards. While this is bad for churners, my fear is that it could signal future limitations or devaluations.
Not being to have two Sapphires at one time makes it harder to light up Singapore Suites.
At face value the impetus behind this seems to be churning
I get why Chase would make the move even though I don’t like it. They lost a ton of money on the Reserve its first year, and it’s still yet to be seen how many will keep it a second year. In order to stem the hemorrhaging they first dropped the sign up bonus from 100k to 50k, and then cut the $300 travel credit from calendar year to cardmember year. Two big drops from those who got the card last August.
Now they are limiting the ability to get bonuses from signups within the general Sapphire brand. In all honesty, having both the Reserve and the Preferred doesn’t make a whole lot of sense unless you’re doing it for sign up bonuses so this is one way for Chase to limit its exposure.
One possible scenario that doesn’t work to Chase’s benefit is one where a current Sapphire Preferred cardmember would like to upgrade to a Reserve and would have done so via a signup. If I were in this situation I wouldn’t be approved because I carried a Sapphire. So I would have to downgrade or cancel, then sign up for a Reserve, and only get the bonus if I hadn’t signed up for the Preferred that I currently carry within the last 2 years. Perhaps they will incentive Preferred cardholders with upgrade bonuses…who knows.
The less obvious reason, and bigger concern to me, revolves around the possible limitation on point transfers between Ultimate Reward accounts. This new Sapphire limitation sets the stage for its implementation quite well
There was a rumor floating around several weeks ago that Chase may limit the ability to transfer between Ultimate Reward accounts. The rumor was based off of a survey that a consumer had taken and screen capped. Via DOC
- “When you combine the Ultimate Rewards points on eligible Chase Cards they would retain their original redemption value – that is, when transferred the points would retain the redemption value of the product they were initially earned on. For example you would not earn a travel redemption bonus if your transfer from a no fee card to a fee card.”
- “You can only combine Ultimate Reward points between no-annual fee cards or between annual fee cards. You cannot combine Ultimate Rewards points between a no-annual fee card and an annual fee card.”
- “You can combine Ultimate Rewards points on eligible Chase cards at a 3:2 conversion ratio. For example if you would like to transfer 15,000 points from your Freedom Unlimited card to your Sapphire Reserve account, your Sapphire Reserve would be credited with 10,000 points (a 3:2 ratio). The transferred points would be granted the redemption value and options of the account to which they are transferred into.”
Say they implement any one of these policies.
I’d assume the change would affect points earned after the new policy goes into effect. Therefore there’d be a rush to move points into an account with the highest redemption value. Those with Reserve cards will push their Freedom, Ink Cash, etc points into their Reserve account.
If they cancel or downgrade that Reserve card after the new policy takes effect they would need to transfer those points into another account or lose them.
If you can’t hold a Reserve and Preferred at the same time it would create quite a dilemma for those without grandfathered Preferred cards or Ink Plus/Preferred cards. If #2 on that list took effect – you couldn’t transfer points from your Reserve to your Freedom or Freedom Unlimited as it’s annual fee to no annual fee. It’d be a use or lose situation for all those points in that account. Or it would be a HUGE incentive to keep that Reserve card open because the cost of losing the points is larger than the cost of keeping the card and paying an annual fee.
What would happen to valuation post cancellation?
Even if you could transfer from Reserve to Freedom would the points transferred retain their Reserve value even though they are now held within inferior accounts? I’d think not – why would you enjoy higher redemption value and UR transfer ability without paying the annual fee? That’s how it currently works – close a Reserve, transfer to another account, and you lose the 1.5 cent redemption value. If #1 were to take effect Reserve points would transfer into Freedom but retain their original value: 1.5 cent redemption and transfer to partners. However, if you were to cancel that Reserve account would the points disappear or would they suddenly be worth the same as Freedom points – losing 33% value in an instant.
These are just a couple hypothetical situations, but the limitation on Sapphire creates a platform for UR point transfer limitations to be even more devastating.
The Chase Sapphire Preferred is a great starter card that earns Premium Ultimate Rewards that can be transferred into over a dozen partners many of which are US based.
60k Points after $4k spend in 3 months
80k offer in branch currently – I think this should be online soon
Transferrable Chase Ultimate Rewards
Super solid welcome offer.
If you carry this card alongside Chase’s cashback cards like the Chase Freedom Flex℠and Chase Freedom Unlimited® or the business versions: Ink Business Cash , Ink Business Unlimited you can combine the points into Preferred account and transfer into hotel and airline partners
Annual fee is quite low at $95 a year + you get a 10% anniversary bonus on points + $50 hotel credit in Chase travel.
- 3x on dining
- including eligible delivery services for takeout
- 3x on select streaming services
- 3x on online grocery purchases
- (excluding Target, Walmart and wholesale clubs)
- 5x on all travel purchased through Chase Ultimate Rewards – Chase Travel Portal
- $50 Annual Credit on hotel stays purchased via Ultimate Rewards/Chase Travel
- The begins immediately for new cardmembers and after your account anniversary for existing cardmembers
- 10% Anniversary Bonus
- Every year you keep the card, your total spend will yield a 10% points bonus. If you spend $10k in a year, you’ll get 1k bonus points
- Chase Sapphire Preferred® continues to redeem at 1.25c in the Chase Travel Portal and the slew of other benefits remain in tact including primary rental car insurance, purchase protections, etc.
- Points are transferrable to 13 Ultimate Rewards partners
- Redeem in the Chase Travel center for 1.25 cents per point
- No foreign transaction fees
- Suite of Travel and Purchase Coverage
- Primary rental car coverage is my favorite
There is currently an 80k offer after $4k spend in 3 months available in branch, and up to 90k after $6k spend in 6 months. I suspect some version of this will be online soon if you don’t want the hassle of going into a branch.
We keep an up to date spreadsheet that lists the best ever offers: You can find that spreadsheet here.
Historically 60k is a very, very good offer. In 2021, we saw the offer hit an all time high of 100k. Who knows if that will ever come back. .
Cards that earn flexible points and should be used on the bulk of your purchases.
Cards that earn fixed points in the currency of the airline/hotel and can not be transferred at attractive rates. These cards yield benefits that make it worth keeping, but not necessarily worth putting a lot of your everyday spend on.